Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:03 Hi, and welcome to does this make me local, a podcast about aging as gracefully as possible when you're just not ready for two 40 something year old friends will find themselves kind of straddling that really odd period of time when aging and everything that is associated with is starting to become a much bigger part of our lives. We're definitely curious, but at the same time, rather terrified about aging. I'm Schiff. I'm a health science nerd and pop culture themes, and I'm sin and adult and waiting obsessed with finance and self-help books. We're going to be talking about the stereotypes of aging and how they affect us. And we'll also be doing some deeper dives into some interesting topics, such as what it's like to get old in the society dating when you're older and scientific advancements in anti-aging products and even evolution and scientific thinking around aging and throughout it, all we chat rant laugh about are adulting mishaps of which there are so, so, so many. So join us as we navigate our second quarter-life crisis.
Speaker 0 00:01:08 Hi, and welcome to this week's episode of does this make me look old? I'm set action. And today I actually want to start a topic that we had talked in a previous episode and last week's episode. And we were like talking about how professions of age people age out of professions and we're discussing music. And then music just seems like an odd ball, right? Because people can continue to produce music for whatever. Thank you. Thanks for being able to finish my sentences for me. Um, I have an issue with that. Um, but yeah, so I wanted to sort of just, I realized that there's a lot to talk about and unpack in that music topic. Um, because you know, this whole thing around, do we start liking new music? What age? What do we like? How generations of music, um, things like that. So anyway, I wanted to bring that up. And so I thought that that that's what we could talk about today.
Speaker 1 00:02:08 Okay. No, I'm glad to talk about this because I have many thoughts. Many of you <inaudible>, I don't know what led me to believe that I've been thinking about this for a while and I want it to, I want to, I'm glad that we brought it up on our podcast because I feel like music is a very, okay. So music is a very personal experience experience for lots of people. Right? So, um, but, and, and I've read many articles that talk about how you kind of get entrenched in your music tastes like basically what you loved when you were like a teenager or two, a year twenties, like is basically the music you're going to love for the rest of your fucking life,
Speaker 0 00:02:53 And then spend the rest of your life saying the new people's music sucks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:02:56 Yes, pretty much. And then basically be the old man on the porch, like scraping at all the new kids and their new fangled. And, uh,
Speaker 2 00:03:04 Just for the record, I kind of don't want that to be true because I feel like I kind of like ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber really that I listened to their music and Taylor Swift and I shouldn't, but I do.
Speaker 1 00:03:23 Why shouldn't you write, like, that keeps us fine. I would actually counter with another thing, which is like, is Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift consider music anymore.
Speaker 2 00:03:34 Even
Speaker 1 00:03:35 Go there 15 plus years old. Yeah. So you might think you're listening to,
Speaker 2 00:03:45 Oh, that is actually painful. I resent you for saying this out loud. You just threw it out there. Oh my God. I'm a little bit traumatized right now. So I'll just process that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 00:04:01 You're welcome. So, yeah, I mean, and another thing that I was thinking about was like, so there's this arcade fire song that I love and I've been listening to like nonstop for like years and like, um, so it's called suburban war and it's basically, it's actually a song about aging, like, yeah. So it's, it's, you know, so the singer sings about, um, his life. Um, and so this is so arcade, fire's like this band out of Montreal, but the lead singer is actually from Houston. And so like, so he's basically singing about his life in Houston with like, you know, friends of his, when he, or maybe he isn't, maybe he's actually just creating some, something out of like fiction. I don't know. But anyway, but I would like to think he's thinking about his life back in Houston and like, and so basically it's just about how you know about his life at this brand and how they kind of on separate ways after my scares and after high school. And, you know, so, so on the one hand, the song is actually about, it is about aging. It's about relationships and how they change as you're aging, which I think is a topic that we should probably discuss later on. I think, you know, because definition of friendship. Yeah. Actually
Speaker 2 00:05:14 Yes. Definition of friendship does change
Speaker 1 00:05:16 As you age and your friendships with people change as you age too. Right. So,
Speaker 2 00:05:24 Yeah. That's very true. But anyway, we digress,
Speaker 1 00:05:27 But yeah, so, but like, so this song brought up those feelings about, you know, how like life changes and how friendships change and how have you changed as you age and then the other. But then there's this one line in the song, which is the music divides us into tribes. And I was thinking about that
Speaker 2 00:05:49 Or by Shaundra.
Speaker 1 00:05:51 So it's not clear exactly what he means, a song. He could interpret it multiple because on some level music can divide us in generations. Right. Like I'm an eighties, nineties kid. And like, I liked Runge and like that whole thing. So like, you know, and that's different from like a kid who's growing up now, you know, they're like, I don't know who they, like, you know, like, you know, like, like another girl could be growing up right now, like Lizzo or Billie Eilish for like, you know, like whatever, whatever, but it's clearly different from where I'm listening to music can divide us into generations. It divides us by Shawn. That's true. Like, you know, people like rock people, like jazz people, like whatever people like emo pop punk, whatever. And so, um, yeah, like, so it just, it just brought up a lot of BS, like feelings around age and, um, not around age and around music. And, um, and the one thing that I actually also wanted to touch on today was what can you do when you're an older person? And you want to find new music because any, when you're young, you have all this time in the world, you're like constantly exposed to new people, new places, new things. And you
Speaker 0 00:07:12 Time also goes slowly when you're younger. Like, do you remember like in the summers, like when you were a kid, like summers lasted forever and now I don't know when summer comes and goes.
Speaker 1 00:07:26 It's true. So I
Speaker 0 00:07:27 Feel like when you are a child, like a, you're being curious and you're discovering new things and you're like, you, you're more willing to check out new things. Um, so which I guess as a, as an adult, it's harder to do. So, um, so maybe that plays a little bit into that pool being discovering new music and try it.
Speaker 1 00:07:49 Yeah. So like, so the thing is like, so what I wanted to talk about was the fact that like, that Avenue was gone for me now. Right. Because when I was discovering new music, way back when for social before
Speaker 0 00:08:06 Social, even now
Speaker 1 00:08:10 There's no before, but like now kids have like, or like now people have like more avenues in which to explore music, right? Like you can like go on the internet and try to find things. And back then there was no internet. Like you found things because you either read about it. Somebody knew about it. And like told you told you, gave you the music to listen, to made you a mix tape. Yes. Mixed tapes existed. That's how old I am, you know? Like, so people would introduce you in different ways to it. Right. And like, um,
Speaker 0 00:08:44 I remembered burning CDs. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 00:08:47 I'm pretty sure they don't even know what that is. I don't even know what it's like to hear your favorite song on the radio and have to hit tape at the time that like the radio was playing so that you actually get your snippet of music for free and pray to God that like the announcer doesn't like start talking over the end of it or talking over the beginning of it, which was like such an annoyance. But anyway, so then like, but like, yeah. So you heard of it on the like, I mean, I guess technically you can still listen to songs on the radio, but radios aren't getting played that often now. And I can't even think of the last time I listened to a radio, but you know, like there are certain avenues that are just like missing now. Like you don't because I mean, we're all older. We all have lives. It's not like I'm, you know, I'm calling somebody up and going, Oh, did you hear like this new piece of music? No one does that,
Speaker 0 00:09:38 But you're right though. Like, because you reminded me of, of, um, of how we came across new music or new books or new movies was browsing. Do you remember like going to blockbuster or the library or like, you know, but now I feel like it's much more targeted. We actually know exactly what we want to listen and what we want to download and buy. So how do people,
Speaker 1 00:10:00 Well, I know, so that's my thing. Right? Cause I remember going to all these record shops and like, you know, thumbing through all of the different CDs, like old, like vintage places where you could find like really old, like, like recordings of like B sides and things like that. Like, these are the ways that you could do it back then. And like, and you would come across something that was new or like a record shop owner would be like, Hey, I see what you're into. Like, I think you'll like this, you know, like I feel like I don't have that Avenue anymore. And, um, or like the other thing is, is, yeah. And this is especially hard because of COVID you would be introduced to new music because you would go to concerts and the open hand, the opening act, if there were multiple opening acts and sometimes there were, especially in small concerts, like you would be exposed to all of this new music. Right. And you're like, Oh, actually I like, I like this band, you know, like let me find there, you know, new recording and like, and I feel like, I mean, God help us concerts like happen again. But you know, like if you don't have these avenues anymore, then it's like, it's much harder. Right. Know, that's true. And like, yeah, like I'm going to go on
Speaker 0 00:11:11 Glad that you were actually still seeking this out because the reason I say this is because, um, I don't know if this was like, when I first started my new job. Um, not, it's not new anymore, obviously, because I've changed jobs since then. But, um, at my present company and I remember coming across this article, it was basically, they said that you stop liking or listening new music around like 32, 33, like you just stop. And, uh, and I think they based it on the, whoever did the study or whichever group did the study, they based it off using Spotify data that they, that look on your face is so funny. I wish you guys could see it because she just looks so pissed. Even though she's laughing, she actually looks very annoyed. Um, and, and I think I know why, but anyway, the point is it said
Speaker 1 00:12:11 That they
Speaker 0 00:12:13 Researched Spotify listeners and they found that people just don't listen to new music after the age of 33. Which I mean, in my case, I actually know it's not true because I am not 33 and above 33. And I, like I mentioned, I might still like some pop music. Yeah. I'm not sure I aged out of that. Although I will say that the nineties music and the early two thousands music still gets me. So, you know, maybe there is some truth to me loving those music, but there's a lot of new songs that I really, really like as well. So 33 is the age.
Speaker 1 00:12:51 Okay. I could see that being like a generality feeling, that there are a lot of people who are like interested in searching for new music. Right? Yeah. And using Spotify data, I feel is a bit problematic. The reason I'm saying this is because I've noticed on my own Spotify, like, but on my own Johns, through like music listening and Spotify and Spotify, I don't hate you. You, you host our podcast. So thank you. But at the same time, like I find, I don't think I like their algorithms. And the reason I'm saying this is because you can go through a bunch of music and like just click on all of the different likes. And I will, I will be the first one to admit that a lot of the likes that I have like span the, probably like late eighties through the nineties, into the two thousands. Right. So like, I would think that like maybe until 2010 is when my life start like petering out. So I find that the Spotify algorithm still constantly throw my own white music back at me. And I don't like, like, I mean, like they, they tell you
Speaker 0 00:14:03 Like to listen to the same song that you liked.
Speaker 1 00:14:05 Yeah. So, okay. So more songs by the same artist. Okay. So it's, it's both. So like they'll create daily mixes for you. So like, I don't know how it was for other people, but on my Spotify list, I have like six different daily mixes. Right. But it's also, I mean, don't get me wrong. Like when I feel like listening to songs that I, that I quote, like, like you can listen to those daily mixes because they're usually a mixture of songs that you like. And then they sometimes throw in like one or two extra songs in there, which I do appreciate because it has introduced me to new bands, but then there's this, there's this like section called like a discover weekly section. And I assume that meant that was like totally new music. But then when I looked through it, it actually turns out be music that is maybe like from bands that you don't know, but it's often from the same, it's often from the same generation as the music that you liked. It makes you, it forces you to listen to old music. It's really irritating. And the thing is, is that I know because I, you know, how the band is, I might not listen to this band, but I know them and I know they're using it,
Speaker 0 00:15:22 Not actually exposing me or introducing me to something new. And so there, yeah, no, that, that actually does. That sounds flawed actually. Right. Because they're basically making an assumption. That's a flawed assumption that a, you know, that is the only type of music you would want to listen to. And B that you know, that there is, um, no, that, that you've never heard of this bad, even though technically you should have, because you're from that generation.
Speaker 1 00:15:49 Exactly. Right. I know, I know. Don't get me wrong on the discover weekly, there are occasional songs that are different in you and like, um, and you know, you can like learn about new bands that way, but often I just find that it's just like, they've already made up their mind about you. And then they're kind of like throwing things at you based on this assumption, which is don't make assumptions.
Speaker 0 00:16:20 No, but, but I, I hear what you mean because like, I think that that's part of, that's part of that sense of awe and discovery that I was talking about. So for me, you know, I'm not a big music listener, so I can't quite relate. I mean, I listened to, that's why I think I ended up listening to so much pop is because it's like, Oh, what's out there. Oh, that sounds nice. And I'm like, I don't really fall in love with music as much, but for me, it's, um, movies and TV shows and books, especially books. And now I find it difficult to discover new authors and I've actually faced the same challenge because I feel like I'm forced to go seeking a new author, like as in a book. So like someone mentions a book and then I'll go and search for that book and I'll buy it and I'll read it.
Speaker 0 00:17:09 But it's not the same as just going through a section and thumbing across like, you know, different titles and just picking a book based on, you know, the cover or reading the low back, or I don't know, like just something appealed about the book to you and randomly discovering new authors. And I find that actually to be problematic that lately similar to your music situation is that I always end up reading the same kind of books, but a part of me is dying. You know, like when you come across that fresh something so different, like you never pick it up in a million years, but somehow you come across it and you're like, Whoa, I'll just give it a shot. Right. And there's no, it's not an author. You would normally, like, it's not an Shaundra you would normally like, but then you read it and you're kind of like transported into this different world and it just blows your mind. And you're like, what the hell was that? I want that. And I miss it and I don't know how to bring it back.
Speaker 1 00:18:14 And I honestly think some of it is just because of like the, over, the, over analyzing of the algorithms of our life. Cause I, I, and like, I'll, I'll say my book experience, um, because I, so I'm, I I'm on some of that newsletter thing. And somehow like penguin got a hold of my email or whatever. And I think like, as, as part of a survey, I want you to answer like different genres of, um, different genres of literature that I might, and now it feeds me back, like all these new penguin books that I might like, but I feel that it assumes that I'm a certain type of genre, like reader. I get the same books to me over and over. And I'm like, I don't care for these. He's giving me another set. Like, you know, like I, I just, uh, I dunno.
Speaker 0 00:19:07 Yeah. Like I feel like people are labeling you too much. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:19:11 Yeah, exactly. And, and the thing is, is that it's true. I might have a label based on the algorithm. It's quite probable. I have a label, but occasionally I like, I like I'm here 90% of the time, but on occasion, I like to kind of explore.
Speaker 0 00:19:29 It's funny. You should say that because speaking of labels, I mean, I think I'm okay with being labeled too, but I'd rather follow the Google format of multiple labels apply rather than like, I don't know, Yahoo or Hotmail where you had to create a folder and just stuff it into that one folder. Do you know what I mean? Like, so, so it's kind of like, you can be multifaceted and it's, and they can actually be contradictory to each other and you'd still be the same person and it's okay. And I wish that the, you know, in your case, Spotify and your music sources, and in my case, my book recommendations
Speaker 1 00:20:10 <inaudible> catch up. Exactly. I know, because right now, like, in some ways I'm sort of like relegating to old school, ways of finding music. Like I think the other day I found, I found it. Wow. I mean, I don't know how old she knew she is technically because it's like Ozzy Osborne's daughter. I didn't know. She sings, but she's saying Kelly. No, no, no. The older one, huh? Yeah. He has an older daughter. Isn't that? Kelly she's older than Kelly once she wasn't part of the show. Oh yeah. So she just sang her. I know, I know this, but I found out about it. And the reason I think I found out about her was because I was reading the rolling stones, rolling stone, all about her. And because of that, then I like eventually ended up finding like all these other bands, like off of that same rolling stone page, because I think it was like there, they had a new article, they had an article about new artists.
Speaker 1 00:21:09 And so then I was like, Oh, let me see if I can find these on my Spotify. And I could, and then I was like, Oh, these are all really good bands. But like, like they should make it easier. Like, I, I, I don't know. I guess maybe now I should just go to rolling stone and just find my new bands, which is kind of like when I was younger, that would have been yeah. Anyway, but yeah, I guess that would have been what I would have been like, it doesn't feel as organic when you're like being told what to listen to, but I guess we're all kind of told what to do and say, and think and feel, feel, yeah, exactly. I guess it's just up to us as to whether or not we really want to follow.
Speaker 0 00:21:52 Yeah. So so-so, but I am actually really curious about this whole, um, do you stop listening? Because I mean us aside, but it also doesn't take away from the fact that people do say, I mean, I've heard people say things like, Oh, I hate today's music. Um, so on average, do people actually age out of their musical tastes?
Speaker 1 00:22:15 And I'm curious, I'm curious about that because I think that, you know, we came across a few articles that we're seeing, but older people do have like different neural firing patterns when it comes to listening to music. Right. And then <inaudible> yeah. And that like, and they experience music differently. And that as a result, maybe like cool, new music may sound similar. May all sound similar to like older people like to older people. Um, I don't know if that's completely true, is that why they don't like it?
Speaker 0 00:22:54 Well, how does that translate to them? Not liking you music?
Speaker 1 00:22:58 That's the thing like, I mean, I guess maybe
Speaker 0 00:23:01 I'm not very scientific, so I'm trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1 00:23:05 I guess if you were, if you like the music, then that would be fine. But I guess if you can't distinguish between the different bands and they all sound like your noise, it doesn't kind of like stick. Yeah. It doesn't stick to you, like as opposed. And then like, there's also like the emotional connection around music and how that changes as you age. Because you know, when you're younger, there's all these new experiences around the music that you're listening to.
Speaker 0 00:23:30 As a teenager, you're intense about everything though. Everything is intense. Like your emotions around music, your emotions around, uh, any other pop culture, your emotions around your friends. Um, I, we said, we'd talk about
Speaker 2 00:23:46 It later. And we will, but like, you know, even as a child, like, I mean, as a teenager, your friends or your life, right? Like you will, you will die for them. And you're like, you think you will. And then you're like, anyway, I mean, it's a tense. Everything is just so vibrant and intense when you're a teenager. So I don't know if that really counts.
Speaker 1 00:24:11 Why is that? You, you don't think that you're feeling general music, right?
Speaker 2 00:24:15 No. Like as an, as an, like, not that it doesn't count, I guess that's the wrong word, but you know, the fact that anything not just music would be intense. You would love it as much as that. My point. Yeah. Yeah. I know. That's the thing. Is that like,
Speaker 1 00:24:34 Maybe because music is so tied up with emotion that like, you end up crystallizing these feelings around the music and then that's what you carry on forward.
Speaker 2 00:24:44 It's so funny. Cause I really don't, as you're talking, I'm like, I don't get that. I think that's because I'm not into that music as much. Right. Like, I, I don't listen to music when I'm working. I don't have anything like that. So it's so funny that, you know, cause you're talking and I'm like, Oh, <inaudible>
Speaker 1 00:25:06 Songs I really, really love, but I don't feel, but if that's the yeah. The intensity of emotion. Yeah. Yeah. It's different things for different people. I guess. Maybe I'm trying to think about like, what would be the same, Mike? No, no, I get it
Speaker 2 00:25:27 Fascinated by the fact that, you know, like I'm like, wow. Like I always thought like, I'm, you know, I'm like, yeah. Like music, like, you know, what's your favorite? I'm like, yeah, this actor, I mean, sorry, this singer or this genre, but as just listening to you talk, I'm realizing that Holy crap, I actually don't. I never came in nearly as much.
Speaker 1 00:25:51 I know super different people. Like I think I also played music. And then that also adds a different layer to it because like when you're listening to it, you also, it's also a different experience because you're actually like, in my head, I parse out different parts of the music. So like in my head, like sometimes I'll parse out like the baseline versus like the drums versus like different things. And like, and you judge and like, yeah. But yeah. So like when you're actually judging music, that's what I judge it on. Right. Like you actually listen to all of the different parts to it and like, you know, like different people might like different things. So like, like, you know, so for example, for me, like I like very syncopated rhythms and so, or like interesting timing music. And so like, that's how I ended up judging it. And so, yeah, but then that's what I want my Spotify to figure out. Cause this is how I like music. Please figure it out.
Speaker 2 00:26:52 But I can find it's not the singer and it's not the band. It's the tight music and sobbing, discovering new things. Yeah. Well maybe now,
Speaker 1 00:27:04 Yeah. Spotify, please change the algorithm
Speaker 2 00:27:07 Based on what person That's totally fair.
Speaker 1 00:27:16 Don't get me wrong. It does fine. Occasionally we'll find something for you and spit it out for you. Like, you'll be like, Oh, that actually that's that it has similar like maybe like a similar sound quality to a band that you like or whatnot. But I mean, because bands do this all the time, right? Like bands kind of riff off other bands. Like that's the reason that actually that this is another point, which might be why old people work, quote old people, because now I'm an old, but like how, how some people say that like all bands sounded like is because sometimes they do like, you'll find that like certain bands because of their influences actually end up sounding like, so for example, wow. And now I'll go to my own little Spotify, like John's but like, so I was listening to this, um, interesting Spotify list, which was like covers of bands.
Speaker 1 00:28:09 So it was like new bands, but they were in covers of old music. And like, this is also how I had to like find new bands because I was just like, Oh, this is actually kind of what I want. Like, I want something that sounds similar, but he's like different, you know? So then, um, but like there was this one band that was like, they sent in cover of ballroom blitz. I don't know if you've ever heard, but a lot of people, they use it on commercials and things like that. But like then new band actually, they, they just, they sound so much, like, it sounds so much like the original band, you know? And I was just like, wow. Like some people like really take it to heart where they don't just use it as an influence. They kind of like use it to create the whole band image. So anyway, a lot of bands bind their influences to older bands. And so like really that's all I want
Speaker 2 00:29:02 Talking. So I actually liked, or I still do like listening to red, hot chili peppers, but for the life of me, I can't tell the songs apart.
Speaker 1 00:29:11 <inaudible> that's too funny
Speaker 2 00:29:36 And I don't hate them. I think that's the difference with those articles. Everyone's like, Oh, you just stopped liking new music. And I'm like, no, I don't think so either you may just not listen to it or be allowed to listen to it in your case. It's like, you're not allowed no new music for you, but, but I don't know if you wouldn't because otherwise parents would like, you know, the baby shark doo doo doo. So like even I'm not, he's not a parent, no, the song, you know, parents wouldn't actually start singing along with it. Like I think that, you know, when you're exposed to your kids' music or if you're around people who are always listening to music, then if you do eventually pick some, pick up some of it.
Speaker 1 00:30:26 Yeah. Speaking to ed Sheeran, like,
Speaker 2 00:30:28 Yeah, because my sister, you know, she, she was like upset and so I would listen. Yeah. Oh my God, that's a really good song. I realized that I would seek it out when I was on my own sometimes. Right. Or if it came on the radio, I'd be like, Oh, that's a really good song. You know? And, but now I'm still traumatized by the fact that you were right there, 10, 15 years into the industry. Anyway. So clearly that they're not new, but I thought here, I was like, Oh, I listened to the music. So clearly I'm not the person to go by.
Speaker 1 00:31:06 I was thinking about it. Right. Because like right now I'm open to like trying to find new bands. But like, is that going to change in 20 years? Am I going to be like, well, it's too much effort for me.
Speaker 2 00:31:19 Yeah. Well, I reserve the right though to do that. I reserve the right to do that. Like if you know, you have a few perks. Yeah. And that's one of them, like if I actually want to be rude and, and cranky about something, I should be allowed.
Speaker 1 00:31:42 Yeah. You should be. Yeah. You should be able to tell the young ins to pipe down
Speaker 2 00:31:46 Or other old ones, because basically anyone who's annoying me, I shouldn't be allowed to tell them
Speaker 1 00:31:59 Anyway. Yeah. So that was that that's something that I was probably got to talk about it. Cause it was kind of bothering me. Cause I had had to have read all those articles about how people get stuck in their ways about like music, I guess in some ways that's true for me because it's true. I only listened to certain decades of music really. But like, I dunno, like I dunno, I dunno if that's, I don't know,
Speaker 2 00:32:26 Did the sound of music and even dance, dance styles change over time. Right? Like I was watching some recent videos, you know, and, and the dance movements just seem, They seem a lot more, I don't know, fluid. Yes. I can't explain them. What I mean though,
Speaker 1 00:32:47 They're fluid now before the fluid now,
Speaker 2 00:32:51 Like there's a, I don't know, like a very S kind of a shape to there. I don't even know if that makes sense, but I can picture it in my head.
Speaker 1 00:33:01 So I don't know why, but like my boyfriend brought up, um, Rick gasoline, he's never going to give you up. You ever seen that video? Watch the video again, dude, you have to watch the video because no, no, just do it. Just do it. The only, I think I've never actually watched that video the entire way through, because it was, I think I've only ever really, I've only heard it in the background of the music. I've only worked in the background usually, or I got Rick rolled and so you only get the clip. Right?
Speaker 2 00:33:40 Other song, uh, Rick gasoline. Did he have like another song that was just as famous you may have. Okay. Nevermind. I don't actually remember it
Speaker 1 00:33:50 Anyway. Watch the video because it's like literally him and this, like this woman dancing and then, Oh yeah, there was a bartender and like, um, and the bartender I think is actually a real dancer because he, when he dances, he's really dancing, but like, yeah. But just watch Rick Astley dance. I'm sorry with Ashley, but,
Speaker 2 00:34:13 Well, it was very funny. No, but you know, what's funny is, um, but the, the dance style, like with the movements, um, they're so different now. Definitely
Speaker 1 00:34:30 Eighties, early eighties,
Speaker 2 00:34:31 But I mean, then you also have drinks. Um, that, that was a parody. I know, but that was still like, keep the fact that people took it seriously and we're doing it. And they're like, they're trying to be funny. I guess I was like, that just looks painful.
Speaker 1 00:34:50 I know. Yeah. I guess that really shows you, which generation you live in your dancing style.
Speaker 2 00:34:59 What would the nineties be like? The nineties early two thousands would be the hip hop. Yeah. Yeah. Never died, but didn't die. But the style changed though.
Speaker 1 00:35:12 Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. The dancing style change. Right. It's true. Yeah. I definitely agree about that. I mean,
Speaker 2 00:35:25 But we're a castle, you know, I have to check that out.
Speaker 1 00:35:28 Um, just to watch the video it's um, it's a lesson in how far dance moves.
Speaker 2 00:35:36 I actually like the new ones. Like, it just looks very fun. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to do it, but I have never been graceful in any shape or form. So a dance that actually looks graceful. That's never happening. So yeah. I mean, I just, I I'm like on this nurse to, to, to write in about, I want to create a playlist of like songs that we're into. Maybe, I don't know. I'm just riffing here. Interesting. Cause like, it would be nice to like create a playlist that people could add to and then you could just like learn yourself. That's actually not a bad idea. We should put it up there. Okay. Um, and then start seeing what other music you can help, help Civ discover new music and meet new authors. I know something on Spotify where it'll be like shifts playlist, and I can like show you the music I like. And then people can suggest other bands. You should do it, set it up.
Speaker 2 00:36:50 Anyway. I have to get going today because life gets in the way. But, um, for, for those on the listening to us, like, you know, check us out on our website, does this make me look old.com we're on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. So, you know, join us and, and share your favorite bands and songs that remind you your old and songs that you discovered when you got older and actually email us that, does this make me look old? G-mail dot com or yeah. Um, yeah, send me, send me options to listen, to help her out of her misery. All right. Talk to you guys
Speaker 3 00:37:34 Next week.
