Speaker 1 00:00:03 Hi, and welcome to does this make me local, a podcast about aging as gracefully as possible when you're just not ready for two 40 something year old friends will find themselves kind of straddling that really odd period of time when aging and everything that is associated with is starting to become a much bigger part of our lives. We're definitely curious, but at the same time, rather terrified about aging. I'm Schiff. I'm a health science nerd and pop culture themes, and I'm SIM and adult and waiting obsessed with finance and self-help books. We're going to be talking about the stereotypes of aging and how they affect us. And we'll also be doing some deeper dives into some interesting topics, such as what it's like to get old in the society dating when you're older and scientific advancements in anti-aging products and even evolution and scientific thinking around aging and throughout it all we chat rant laugh about or adulting mishaps of which there are so, so, so many. So join us as we navigate our second quarter-life crisis.
Speaker 2 00:01:09 Hi, and welcome to this week's episode of does this make me look old? Hey, Schiff. How's it going? Hey Sam, How are you? Oh, not too bad. Actually. I had the week off, so I feel compared to our last week's topic, I feel like I took advice from our discussion and, and I took some time off and I used it to reset. So I don't know if you can tell, does my voice sound a little bit more rested?
Speaker 0 00:01:40 It sounds relaxed.
Speaker 2 00:01:42 Oh my goodness. That word associated with three in so long. So that,
Speaker 0 00:01:50 Uh, C so some CS. So you're, you're doing your part to like, help help with that symptoms of burnout. So good job.
Speaker 2 00:01:57 Yeah. I was like, you know, I really need to heat. I mean, who am I right to ignore the words, uh, and wisdom of experts.
Speaker 0 00:02:10 This
Speaker 2 00:02:10 Is true. Yeah. So I figured I would take some time off. So it was great. I slept a lot. I organized some stuff. I bought a couple of books and started reading them, bought a couple of magazines and started reading them. Nice. Yeah. Watched, um, uh, quite a few, um, nineties and two thousands music videos.
Speaker 0 00:02:35 Oh, that's
Speaker 2 00:02:36 Interesting. That was so random. I'm not even a music person, but I don't know. I just felt, you know, a little bit of TLC's, you know, a waterfall kind of
Speaker 0 00:02:49 The nostalgia, the nostalgia help comfort you.
Speaker 2 00:02:52 It actually did. It was quite nice, you know? And I was like, wow. I remember when back then, I, my God, like finals or, you know, exams were going to kill me. And it was like, so stressful.
Speaker 0 00:03:12 That's too funny.
Speaker 2 00:03:14 How was your week?
Speaker 0 00:03:15 Oh, it was okay. I mean, yeah, sadly I did not have the week off, so I can't say that I feel rested or relaxed, but you know, it was a week. I don't know. I'm like, yeah. I'm just like, sometimes I feel like I'm just counting down the days till return. Okay. One point, day down.
Speaker 2 00:03:45 There's a lot of stuff to get through before retirement though. I hate
Speaker 0 00:03:51 This is true. This is true
Speaker 2 00:03:55 Too bunny. I was going to ask you, what did you want to talk about
Speaker 0 00:03:58 Today? Today? I came across this article and an October 18th is actually menopause day. So which I was like, huh? That's interesting. I never, No, I did not.
Speaker 2 00:04:13 So it's international.
Speaker 0 00:04:14 I think it is. Yeah. But the reason that I even came across this was because I was reading this article in the guardian about an MP who is trying to bring, so she's trying to pass a bill in order to make hormone replacement therapy free, um, for all like menopausal women in the UK. And I was just like, that's pretty cool. And I think I'm just impressed that people are actually talking about menopause more back in the day. Like nobody talked about it. And now I'm finding that more and more people are coming out of the woodwork to talk about menopause and symptoms and whatnot. And so, uh, and actually to fight for rights of menopausal women, I was just like, huh, that's, uh, that's fascinating. Well, I mean like, cause right now they HRT isn't available for the people in the UK in like for menopausal women in the UK. And like, like she actually has to pass a bill in order to make that. So, I mean, in a sense it's like the right.
Speaker 2 00:05:15 Okay. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. I didn't actually know it was a thing. So, you know, now that I think about it, I mean, I guess I should know a little bit more about menopause because I'm just realizing that all I know about it is that it was really hard on my mom when she went through and One would think that I would actually pay attention since, you know, I'll be going through it at some point sooner rather than later, but I don't actually know a lot about it.
Speaker 0 00:05:45 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think we should probably do a deep dive into menopause at a, on a later episode, like all about like all of the different hormonal fluctuations and what exactly happens. But like the gist of it basically is that menopause is, you know, during puberty, you get your period and like you cycle through your periods, like every month. And so menopause is basically the loss of that cycling because you don't produce the hormones in order to, in order to allow for egg ovulation anymore. And then that leads to a whole cascade of like different changes in your body from like cognition all the way to mood. And it can have effects on like your cardiovascular system and it can have effects on your sexual function and things like that. And it's basically an entire year. The definition of it is that once you have gone through entire 12 month cycle of having absolutely no periods, then you've entered menopause. So yeah. Oh, wow. So that's like, that's like the bare bones of it. There's more medical issues to discuss about that. And I think we should probably, we should probably talk about it later episode, but yeah. I'm just impressed that people are like, yeah, it isn't just taboo. It isn't just happy to talk about anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:06:51 As you were talking, um, I was like Googling this menopause month thing and turns out that October 11th was the world perimenopause day.
Speaker 0 00:07:07 Really funny because it's taken exactly a week before menopause day,
Speaker 2 00:07:15 I guess makes sense. Right? You have to go through perimenopause before you go to menopause. It's funny, but not funny. You know,
Speaker 0 00:07:22 Somebody had a sense of humor. Somebody had a sense of humor when they set it up.
Speaker 2 00:07:26 But what what's interesting is it says that I'm reading through the symptoms of perimenopause and this is kind of scary. I'm like, oh my God, like, how do people survive this? So there's period changes. All right, there is sleeping problems, hot flushes, anxiety, weight gain, low mood night sweats, joint aches, stress, low energy brain fog, loss of sex drive headaches, um, skin changes, painful sex, like, oh my gosh. Wow.
Speaker 0 00:08:01 Yeah. It can be a lot to deal with. And it's why have so many women when they go through it. Like, I mean, you know, they look for like something to alleviate all those symptoms, right.
Speaker 2 00:08:10 That just sounds really scary. Hypochondria is kicking in. So I was three minutes ago. I am no longer Zan.
Speaker 0 00:08:22 No. And it basically a week, a week off just discussing menopause has sent SIM into anxiety mode.
Speaker 2 00:08:33 But this is actually kind of funny because honestly, exercise and eating healthy is, seems to be at the top of every topic we discussed as a potential solution.
Speaker 0 00:08:46 I know because it's usually the,
Speaker 2 00:08:50 Yes, that's
Speaker 0 00:08:51 Usually the solution. That's what it takes.
Speaker 2 00:08:58 Are they ever going to come up with something that automatically makes you want to eat healthy and exercise more, some kind of pill or shot or patch, you know, you stick it in and on and like on your skin and all of a sudden you're like, I can't wait to exercise.
Speaker 0 00:09:19 I would assume that you, we can probably get there at some point, but then the problem would be that you actually use that you use that remedy because then you need to actually take it in order to then do the diet and exercise. So I think that that's a hurdle. Would you take it regularly?
Speaker 2 00:09:38 Yes. Yes.
Speaker 0 00:09:41 Oh, see, I don't know that I would, I'd just be like, oh, I want to take my pill. Well,
Speaker 2 00:09:45 Here's the thing. Right? I would take it because even if I do 10% more exercise or eat healthy, 10% more, that's way more than I'm doing that.
Speaker 0 00:09:57 Okay. So I'm not understanding. So, you know, you have to and so,
Speaker 2 00:10:02 And talk myself out of it. So I'm talking about something that motivates me.
Speaker 0 00:10:07 No, no, I understand that. But then like how would you motivate yourself to take the pill?
Speaker 2 00:10:12 Oh, cause like I take, I don't know. I just, I feel like I take meds all the time.
Speaker 0 00:10:22 Oh, okay. See where, okay. I guess that's the difference? Cause like, I, I don't like adding that as like a, as a, as a, to do. I probably wouldn't do it. So it would just be the same,
Speaker 2 00:10:41 Well, a patch would be nice. Right. So Maybe they would work on making it like a week long patch. So, and it's waterproof. So you can shower with it on, you know,
Speaker 0 00:10:55 You've got it all figured out. <inaudible>,
Speaker 2 00:10:59 I'm just thinking Sunday night, you put it on, you go to sleep. So when you wake up on Monday morning, you're already jazzed. And then you do your workout before you even start your day. And then you crave a salad with protein, not enough carbs. Do you know what I mean? Like all like pros, like non-processed vegges and all of that stuff, which I enjoy, but not as much I enjoy chips, you know what I mean? So, and then it kind of lasts, you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then it starts tapering off, but that's okay. Because weekends coming, you know, and so you're allowed a cheat day and then You patch,
Speaker 0 00:11:46 Uh, wouldn't it be easier just to like implant something in your brain.
Speaker 2 00:11:51 Hey, I'm just thinking of a cheaper, but yes, that would be even better. I'm glad you went there directly. I was just trying to think of, you know,
Speaker 0 00:12:01 Like a, just less invasive option,
Speaker 2 00:12:06 You know? Yeah. Like something that, you know, would be accessible to the masses.
Speaker 0 00:12:13 Uh, yeah. It would make it easier to do things that you don't completely want to do, but yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I just wanted to bring up the fact that on October 18th, the, we were celebrating world menopause day and that there's actually like people out there who are bringing causes that affect women in menopause, like to the forefront, you know, it's kind of cool. I mean, I was reading, I was also reading like, um, as part of that same article that, you know, there's like a lot of like economic losses because of perimenopause and menopause, which I didn't really realize. Cause like apparently the symptoms do affect women quite a bit and they actually will leave the workforce because of it. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting because wow. Yeah, because like on the one side men in that, in that time were actually like hitting their stride. Like they're starting to get into like higher positions in their like mid forties to mid fifties. But then like if women are coming out of the workforce because of that, then like that's concerning
Speaker 2 00:13:15 So much harder to go back in. Oh wow. Did the article talk about like, is it because of symptoms are so severe? Like yeah. And it keeps an emotional toll. Is that what it is? Is it a physical thing? Like
Speaker 0 00:13:29 It's a physical toll on people. Right. And then it can take a toll on mental health and even cognition. So like, so yeah, so sometimes women come out, come out of the workforce because of it, which is kind of crazy. And so in some ways it's, it's something that people like, I would think that like society in general and when I look into, because then you're losing out on a lot of like, you're, you're just losing out on a lot of talent that way. Right.
Speaker 2 00:13:55 So, so, so for a menopause day slash month, like I know it's creating awareness. Um, do you know of any thing, like is, you know, you're in the healthcare sector, have you come across any, um, events or, or, you know, something that you know of that might be happening around Toronto?
Speaker 0 00:14:19 No, I haven't actually in which I, which I found like that, like yeah, that part I haven't actually come across cause I was just like, oh, I didn't, I didn't like, like other than looking at this article, I didn't really know that that October was menopause month and that there were like these two awareness days. It seems really strange. And the other thing is that, um, and as also part of this, I was just like, you know, like Googling around kind of, um, menopause and kind of social issues. And like there's a Canadian menopause society. There's one in the UK as well, which was founded in 1989. But then like, I was just like, why am I finding out about this? Like if I'm like, kind of look like basically almost have to look for it directly. Like you can like,
Speaker 2 00:15:05 Yeah, you would think that, you know, uh, being, uh, you know, women of certain ages considering how much targeted advertising and stuff, we come across
Speaker 0 00:15:16 That it would've been marketed better to us. Right.
Speaker 2 00:15:19 And I had no idea until you brought it up, that there was such a thing. I mean, I guess now that I think about it, it, you know, I shouldn't be surprised cause I'm sure there's an awareness day for almost a lot of things, but yeah. But still this is something that affects one in two people, kind of a thing. It's not something that's like an obscure percentage of the population gets it. Yeah. So you would think that this would be something that's more, um, impactful, right? Like,
Speaker 0 00:15:55 Yeah, exactly. And it's really funny because like come across, like people in like my social circle, um, even in the past, like my boss would come to me and just be like, I'm, it's like, you know, like the menopause symptoms are driving me crazy. Like what can I do? Right. And you know, like you, you kind of give like your medical opinion on what, what can be done. Um, and it's actually interesting because at that time, like HRT wasn't considered to be a medical therapy just because like there had been some studies done in the nineties that seemed to indicate that the risks outweighed the benefits. But like now just because of different formulations in the drugs, it's fine. Like we're finding that people who are kind of in their forties and fifties were just Paramont menopausal slash like just starting menopause. Like they can be on HRT with no issues and the benefits actually outweigh the risks.
Speaker 0 00:16:45 So, um, so what was I, uh, where was I going with this? Well, the thing is, yeah. So like, so you would think that like, if there are kind of these menopause societies out there that they would be kind of marketing or advert, like not, not advertising in the traditional sense, but like, you know, like that they would be actually, you know, creating campaigns around it or like trying to inform women, um, who are of the age of interest about Lino, like information around this and, you know, solutions and whatnot. Like if you go on their website, it's quite informative. But then like, how come? I don't know, like how come you have to, like, you have to just put in the right search functions in order to find them rather than, you know, getting like a banner ad on social media or whatever, you know, like I seem to get all sorts of weird age-related ads that are not useful, but like how come I'm not getting ads?
Speaker 2 00:17:49 My social media thinks, um, uh, I'm a pet owner and a mother
Speaker 0 00:17:55 It's, cause you're looking at animals and babies aren't
Speaker 2 00:18:02 Pleases me that they haven't figured it out.
Speaker 0 00:18:06 That's too funny
Speaker 2 00:18:09 That actually magazine gets marketed to me. I see quite a lot of ads for that. Some of the weird things age-related stuff you would get.
Speaker 0 00:18:19 Oh no. So like on my algorithms, like I get like, just because like we're doing this podcast and I'm always looking up like at like, you know, articles on aging and articles on, you know, the science, the science around it, or like, you know, medical, like therapies around it and whatnot. Like that's, those are, those are the algorithms that come up. And so I get things about like Alzheimer's dementia and like various things, but like I'm not getting anything about the Canadian menopause society. Why is that? Like, you would think that it wouldn't be.
Speaker 2 00:18:52 Yeah, but they probably think you're like focusing on the academia of like aging as a disease or something like that.
Speaker 0 00:19:00 Maybe
Speaker 2 00:19:02 This is like universal, like not gender specific, maybe,
Speaker 0 00:19:05 Uh,
Speaker 2 00:19:07 I don't mind to think of, you know, algorithm.
Speaker 0 00:19:11 Yeah. I mean, I, I highly doubt that because they seem to know that I like makeup.
Speaker 2 00:19:20 I said corrected.
Speaker 0 00:19:23 Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that's it like, I think, uh, I think that, yeah, I think the PR needs to be boosted around, around the menopause. Yeah. On the one hand, I'm glad that like, people are talking about it, but on the other hand, I'm like, you should talk about it more, you know?
Speaker 2 00:19:45 Uh, no, absolutely. They should talk about more, but I wonder why I'm like, I'm glad to hear that, you know, people are talking about it more and that it's like, you know, becoming less taboo or the, you know, if any stigma around it, um, you know, is decreasing, but isn't that kind of sad though, that the stigma exists in the first place. Um, like, so shameful about, you know, getting older as a woman and going through this.
Speaker 0 00:20:15 Yeah. Well, the thing is, is that like I, okay. And here I'll probably end up going on a rant, but the whole thing is, is that Basically, you're just trying to goad me into rant. I see.
Speaker 2 00:20:30 I didn't know it. I find it hilarious. I love it.
Speaker 0 00:20:34 Well, I mean like ultimately is because being a woman has been always considered shameful, right? Like, I mean, like when we got our periods, that was like a big shame inducing thing. Like, it was all about like hiding your tampons or your pads and oh my God. Like, what if you like leak through your clothing and tying sweaters around yourself and all sorts of like ridiculousness and then like, and you know, and like hiding the products in the garbage and like, whatever, right? Like it's just like so much of that has been couched and shamed. So like, why wouldn't even pregnancy was couched in shame for a long time, you know? Like you couldn't wear normal clothing as a pregnant woman. Like everybody was in moomoos like, you basically had to, like, I don't know, or that you, like, it was either yeah. Moomoos or like weird infantilizing clothing. Like it's just like, like so much of like, just being a woman is just so fraught with issues. And then, so why wouldn't menopause be any different, right? Like it's just, it's all the same. It's basically like you're a woman, your life sucks and it will continue to suck until you die. So, yeah.
Speaker 0 00:21:53 I think being a woman socks, I think like, that's just basically what
Speaker 2 00:21:58 Sounded so annoyed.
Speaker 0 00:22:00 They do. I find it
Speaker 2 00:22:02 Very annoying topic. Like every time. Yeah. No for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:22:09 Well, no, cause it's just really interesting because like, you know, when you're a kid, like everybody kind of, I mean, it's not like, I mean, obviously they do treat you like slightly different from the boys. I'm sure. But like at the same time, like you're kind of all the same. Like everyone kind of treats you the same and then you hit puberty and suddenly it's just like, oh, better hide everything, you know, like hide everything around, like being, being a woman now and then like, and then you're just continuing to just like make excuses for like your womanhood, you know, it's just, yeah. It's annoying. Um, the other thing I was going to say is it's just really strange, like the sh the shame around menopause, because like, I don't know. I just want people to talk more about it because like, I'm going to be going through it soon, like to know what I'm going to be facing.
Speaker 0 00:22:59 Thank you. Like, and the funny thing is, is that, like, I know medically what I'm going to be facing, but like, what does that mean on a day-to-day basis? Like, when you're talking about like a hot flush, like, how hot am I going to be feeling? And like, like, and like, I mean, I know women who have gone through it and like, you know, they, like, they talk about having to like, you know, increase like air conditioning in their offices and, you know, like wearing layers because they have to like take off clothing and stuff. Like, you know, like that type of thing. I want the nitty gritty.
Speaker 2 00:23:32 And you'd realize then in that case, I'm going to be in my own Dante circle of hell.
Speaker 0 00:23:40 I
Speaker 2 00:23:40 Already like to live in an icebox.
Speaker 0 00:23:45 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:46 Cause my apartment, like my place, like I rarely turn the air conditioner off ever.
Speaker 0 00:23:57 Yeah. My
Speaker 2 00:23:58 Apartment's usually at a cool 17 degrees.
Speaker 0 00:24:01 Yeah. I know. I mean, we've talked about this offline where like, I like my, like my room to be like 25.
Speaker 2 00:24:11 Yeah. No, like twin twin.
Speaker 0 00:24:14 You're like, you're at like 16.
Speaker 2 00:24:17 I was like really nice. Like when people come over, I'm trying to be nice. So then I'll put in, like, I'll put it up to like 17. I'm like, man, that does not sound fun. I'm old. I run hot. Like I feel usually that I'm always hot and I've always been like that.
Speaker 0 00:24:44 Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you get hot flushes, they're going to be worse. Well, God,
Speaker 2 00:24:48 Yeah. I feel like the universe is out to get me. That's how narcissistic I can be.
Speaker 0 00:25:02 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, oh yeah. Like it's just, yeah. I just, I guess I just want to know like the, like the tiny little details a little bit more, you know, like kind of, cause when you read something it's just like, oh, you kind of undergo, you know, like brain fog. And I'm just like, how often is that going to be affecting me? Does it come on like sporadically? Is it an entire week? Is it entire like month? Is it years? Like I need to know, you know,
Speaker 2 00:25:36 Do you remember anything? Uh, like, I dunno. I feel like my mom doesn't really like, she'll say like, oh, that was so rough, but that's it, you know, actually no good questions. The brain fog one would be interesting to find out about.
Speaker 0 00:25:51 Yeah. I would like to know. And the thing is it's like it affects different people differently. Right. That's the other thing I like, I mean, and I'm glad that people are undertaking research on menopause now or not now. Like they have been, but like, I think it's like a lot of people are doing more, um, over time because, uh, it is, it would be interesting to know like what puts you at a risk? Like how are women who undergo hot, flushes different from the women who don't, you know, like, why are, why are these people getting them and why, or like, why is this group not? And like, you know, cause it affects different people differently. And like not everybody gets all the symptoms. So it's just like, I'd like to know like what can I do to prevent brain fog? You know, will I get rainfall? I bet you, I bet you, the answer is diet and exercise
Speaker 2 00:26:46 That on a, on, on, on a t-shirt
Speaker 0 00:26:49 Exactly the answers always diet and exercise. Yeah. The one thing though, is that like, I'm glad, like I am glad that things are becoming less shameful and taboo. Like I know that like now there are movements in order to get, um, like feminine hygiene products for free in, in, you know, in, uh, like teen washers, like in high schools and things like that. So I'm like, I'm glad like things are starting to move like in, in a positive direction. I always found that really bizarre because like, I remember when I was in high school and like, if you needed something, you'd be like, oh, I need a quarter
Speaker 2 00:27:28 That actually you would get the fake pad or the
Speaker 0 00:27:33 Exactly. And you didn't even know how long it had been there is this been here since the seventies? I need to know. So yeah. Yeah. But now it's available free, so that's nice. So like, I would think,
Speaker 2 00:27:50 Right. Like the age limit on that actually
Speaker 0 00:27:53 I don't know that there
Speaker 2 00:27:54 Is, oh, I don't know. I think it just said students in Ontario. I remember correctly, but I don't actually know if it's high school students or university as well, you know?
Speaker 0 00:28:04 Oh, I see what you mean. I'm like, I'm sure it's like junior high and high school. Like that's when people get their periods.
Speaker 2 00:28:12 No, but I was wondering like in terms of the products, right? Like, um, cause all I remember is I remember thinking that, cause when I was reading the article, it was like, you know, it's like, oh it's not students. I was like, wow. Um, that's great. Um, but I'm curious, you know
Speaker 0 00:28:27 Oh, like if it extends into university or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:28:32 Yeah. I didn't read the article detailed enough. It was more like, you know, so I'm sure it says like between the ages or between high school or whatever, you know? Yeah,
Speaker 0 00:28:42 Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, that's, uh, that's all I wanted to bring up was just like, and, and also just to bring up that we'll, we, we should probably have like a nice deep dive into, uh,
Speaker 2 00:28:56 Is shaping up to be our year for our deeper dives, because we've talked about so many interesting topics, but you know, and we know that there's just so much more to learn about quite a few of them. Right. So yeah, we should definitely plan for those follow-ups with actual deep dives there, for sure.
Speaker 0 00:29:14 Yeah, for sure. And, and uh, and maybe even interviews with like experts in the field. So, cause I think that, uh, yeah, and especially with around, um, women's health and menopause, I'm very interested in like doing a deeper dive and actually like males undergo an andropause around the same time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't affect like in terms of like symptomatology, it isn't as it isn't as severe as like what happens in menopause mainly because men don't undergo like a complete, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Like a complete end of all of them, you know, like hormone production, but uh, yeah, they do undergo, they do undergo something. Like, I don't want to say similar because it's not that similar, but like it's some, you know, it does, uh, it does affect their hormone levels as they age. So yeah. So I mean, so yeah, I mean I'm willing to do a deep dive into andropause as well, so
Speaker 2 00:30:18 Yeah, no, I think that's great. I'm actually gonna, I know, you know, we should probably call this an episode, but before we do, I just need, just know if there is a world Andrew andropause day.
Speaker 0 00:30:29 Oh actually, yeah. That's that's good to know.
Speaker 2 00:30:33 Well, there was, um, in 2013 there was an andropause awareness week in September, but I don't see it. Okay. So maybe not. Hmm. Oh, September 7th. No, that's not it either. There was an awareness week, um, at some point, but it doesn't look like it's, uh, uh, it's a thing yet.
Speaker 0 00:31:06 Yeah. Oh, oh. I I, yeah. Before we call it an episode, that's the other thing I wanted to say was that I think we have to do a semi little bit of a correction on our last one of our last yeah. On our, one of our last episodes. Cause I think we were talking about how was it the international day of the older persons, um, that was created, uh, and for like on October 1st. And so, yeah. And like, I think we had equated that to like grandparents day in Canada, so apparently grandparent's day was discontinued. Um, so yeah, so I think it had been created in Canada, but then it had been discontinued I think, um, uh, in the mid, I think around 20 14, 20 15. And so, um, yeah, but now Canada has an like a seniors' day that coincides with the international day of the older persons. So, oh, that's good. Yeah, because I think that that came into being in 2010. So I think they, like, they basically merged it with, uh, international Dave though, older person. So I just wanted to make that correction,
Speaker 2 00:32:12 Which is actually kind of cool because that was one of our, um, renting points. Right. Cause we were like, when, if you're not a grandparent, you know, Clearly there were enough people who thought along those similar lines, so,
Speaker 0 00:32:30 And probably wrote in, it was just like, well, what the hell? Why aren't we celebrating all, you know?
Speaker 2 00:32:36 Yeah. On that note, it looks, um, let us definitely called us an episode now, but uh, no, this was actually very informative. I'm um, I'm not going to let it ruin my Zen completely, but you know, um, maybe I will figure out ways to get motivated to start this diet and exercise things
Speaker 0 00:33:01 In the absence of a brain implant.
Speaker 2 00:33:05 I was going for the patch. I was trying to make it easier, but yeah, I will happily take a brain implant on this issue if you can, all your smart folks, please. If you're working on this, please continue your great work. Wish you much success.
Speaker 0 00:33:25 Ah, too funny. Yeah. So on that note, thanks for joining us. And please email us at, does this mean make me look
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Speaker 2 00:34:00 Bye
