Speaker 0 00:00:03 Huh. Hi and welcome to does this make me look old, a podcast about aging as gracefully as possible when you're just not ready for two 40 something year old friends will find themselves kind of straddling that really odd period of time when aging and everything that it's associated with is starting to become a much bigger part of our lives. We're definitely curious, but at the same time, rather terrified about aging. I'm Schiff. I'm a health science nerd and pop culture themes, and I'm sin and adult waiting obsessed with finance and self-help books. We're going to be talking about the stereotypes of aging and how they affect us. And we'll also be doing some deeper dives into some interesting topics, such as what it's like to get old in the society dating when you're older and scientific advancements and anti-aging products and even evolution and scientific thinking around aging and throughout it all we chat rant laugh about or adulting mishaps of which there are so, so, so many. So join us as we navigate our second quarter life crisis.
Speaker 1 00:01:08 Hi, and welcome to this week's episode of, does this make me look old today? We actually wanted to talk about regrets. Yeah, you can use the topic. Sure. Why not? Well, I mean, basically I wanted to, I was just having one of those weeks. It was just like, I don't know, work was stressful. And then I was like, you know, I wonder, I wonder about regrets as you get older and will I regret the fact that I'm spending so much time at work? So I want him to see like, yes. And then, um, yeah, so basically I just wanted to see whether or not, uh, like, or just wanting to kind of gauge what, how people who have already, um, you know, past the point of retirement, whether or not they had any regrets about, um, their youth and what they felt. So I came across this article in the independent and it's about a gentleman by the name of Carl polymer, who's professor of human development at Cornell.
Speaker 1 00:02:13 And apparently he was part of a study called the legacy project, which was started in 2004. And, um, basically they interviewed up up to 1500 Americans who are 65 and older. Um, basically people who lived in the, through the great depression and wanted to know, you know, what, um, made them happy and what they've learned over time. And we know what they could pass down to younger generations. So as part of that, he wrote this book it's called 30 lessons for living. And, um, it's basically all the information that he gleaned from interviewing these subjects. And then the one thing that he says that they, that these people regret was, and this is a quote, I would have spent less time worrying. And I regret that I worried so much about everything, which I mean, I I'm like really, that's the only thing that you regret in life, but yeah, that was like, that was awful.
Speaker 1 00:03:14 Is that like, is that one of many things that he talks about or just that, that was the main concern for people? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's basically, uh, what he found was that he thought that they would have spent more time worrying about things like affairs that they'd had in the past or bad business deals, or, you know, if they went through addiction or things like that, but apparently over and over again, he would, he just heard that like, they, they had spent time worrying and they wished that they had spent less time doing so, which is so strange. So wait, so basically people, especially people who may have had affairs or cheated in business deals or done something, you know, ridiculous like that, their biggest regret was that they worried about these things. It doesn't say, I know, it's, it, it is strange.
Speaker 1 00:04:14 It's strange that like, this would be their main concern, but yeah. So he, um, yeah, it's just, uh, it doesn't actually say why, but basically what he says is that over and over among the, like the, you know, over a thousand or so people that he talked to, they yeah, it is. So he he's heard versions of, I would spend less time worrying and that if they had a single dual over, they would have liked to, they would have liked to have all of the time back that they spent fretting anxiously about the future, which is about the future. Yeah. That kind of makes sense. But how was that? Oh, okay. So it's more about how they behaved because they were worried about the future, but they would constantly like, they regret the time that they spent worrying about the future. Yeah. Versus I regret having done something like this is about things that they didn't do other than the fact that they worried about something that doesn't even make sense, but do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 00:05:26 Excuse me, sort of, you know, go inside my head and just know what I'm trying. Okay. What I'm hearing and you know, maybe I don't understand this, but maybe what I'm hearing is that people are like, this is about regrets and sorry, this regret is about worrying about things that didn't really happen. Right. It's it's like, they're worrying about their future at the time. They might have been 30 years old, but they were worried about something, um, that might or might not happen. And, and they, now that they're older, they regret the time they spent worrying about those things. Exactly. Yeah. Because yeah, because they found that they were often worrying about things that over which they had little control and in the end, it didn't really matter. Yeah. I know that in principle makes sense. No. Yeah, it does. It doesn't, it doesn't because I was thinking about that myself and cause I was like, cause after reading this article, I was like, what do I regret in my life?
Speaker 1 00:06:32 And I was just like, I don't know that I regret, well, I mean, like I'm not 65, obviously there's a whole, you know, other quarter century that I can like spend fucking up basically, and then regretting things. But like, I don't know that I, I don't know that I regret the things that I worried about because I feel like the things that I worried about were tangible things. Like, I feel like, I don't know, like, you know, like right now, obviously I worry about things at work and you shouldn't worry about the things at work because it has impacts on like other people, right? Like it has impacts. Yeah. Yeah. Like it, like for me, it has impacts on like patients and then it has impact on, um, like on, on like job stability, like, you know, that type of thing. So like, so there I'm like, okay, so you're telling me to stop worrying about this.
Speaker 1 00:07:22 Like, that kind of makes no sense because you're right. It's like a tangible thing like that has. Yeah. And, and, and it has implications for other people, right? Like, I'm going to guess maybe there were like, maybe they they're focusing on things that like, I don't know, but may have seemed important at the time, but then like, like internal saying yeah, yeah. Turned out not to be, but you know what though? You're right. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it a little bit more, like I worry about the future. And I think the fact that I'm worried about it is what's making me work hard or save money or make decisions and quote unquote sacrifices. Because if I wasn't worried, then I feel like I wouldn't prepare for those things. Like I don't, I don't know. Like, I mean, it's easy to sort of say, once you hit 90 or whatever, and you've lived a good life and you have say the funds and the means to be okay financially, then it's easy to sort of look back and say, oh man, I worried about nothing, but that's a little bit of a, I don't know, rose colored glasses thing.
Speaker 1 00:08:39 I know. That's what I felt too. I was just like, okay, like you're kind of coming, you've come through on the other end, you know, like your life, like you've already lived most of your life, so you can look back on it and be like, oh, you know, like this. Yeah. It wasn't so important. But at the time it might've been, you know, like, and at the time it might've had implications on like your future. So yeah. Like I feel like it reminds me of, it reminds me of like, okay, it reminds me of things like getting into college where you were like, where you were like, so stressed about like the different applications and scholarships and all of this stuff. And like, like looking back on it, but this is the difference. So looking back on it, I'm like, okay, like it worked out, like you're, you're living the life that you have, and there's nothing you can do about it. Like sure. You could've gotten into MIT, but like you didn't, you know, like when I, okay. Yeah, yeah. And it worked out. Okay. And so like, you can kind of, you can, you can look at it like that, but at the same time, like I would never say that I shouldn't have been worrying about that because it didn't matter. Like that stuff actually did matter and did affect my journey and where I am now. So like, I, this is what I don't get. I'm like, what were you reading about? That didn't matter.
Speaker 1 00:10:06 Yeah. I think, you know, I don't know what the methodology was for this. Right. But I wonder the methodology here. Yeah. So the methodology here from the sounds of it is just interviewing people. So it was just like, Hey, how are you? Tell me about your life. Tell us, give us, give us like little, like, you know, nuggets of wisdom from like, you know, the life that you've lived. So it's not like super, like, it's not super scientific. Can I ask about this is because humans in general have a tendency to sort of, you know, the nostalgia thing we covered a few weeks ago, right? Yeah. We have a tendency to sort of, you know, especially when we get over the humps of the hard aspects of our lives, sort of almost look back with some kind of fondness. Maybe it's a fondness for our resilience.
Speaker 1 00:10:56 We focus on what got us through that period. Right. And, you know, so, and th there's that element and the second element is, did he, or she who's who's the, uh, so yeah, so th well, I mean the main, the main researcher that they interviewed was this gentleman, Carl polymer, but I don't know how many other people were involved in this project because I mean, it's a lot of people and I highly doubt that he was like the sole interviewer for all of this. So I'm sure that there were other people involved, but he's like the lead. Yeah. But I wonder if people actually do, you know what I mean? Like when you first meet someone and you're interviewing for whatever reason, and you might be honest, but in general, how deep would you really? Yeah, I know. That's what I wonder too. And, okay, so I'm just gonna read a little excerpt about the, like the point of the project.
Speaker 1 00:11:52 And so this is what, this is what he says on the site, uh, on like the S the site about the legacy project. So basically, is there something that older people know that the young don't about how to live? So to answer that question, Carl polymer was a professor of dermatology in medicine, created the legacy project in which he surveyed more than 1200 of the oldest Americans to seek their advice for living better happier lives consulting. The academic literature pillar found that although there have been general studies of quote, elder wisdom studies have not asked older people to share practical advice for living based on their long experience, major themes emerged from his interviews. And I think this is where they try to sell the book. But anyway, so major themes emerged from his interviews, which polymer distilled into a set of life lessons in such categories as love and marriage, child rearing work and career aging, well, avoiding regrets, dealing with loss and prescriptions for happiness.
Speaker 1 00:12:50 According to polymer, the goal of the legacy project is to capture this kind of practical wisdom before the oldest generation has gone. Oh, that's nice, actually. Yeah, it is. But then the other thing that I was thinking about was, I mean, no, don't get me wrong. I think we should learn from older generations. They have, they have a lot, they have a lot of wisdom to it to give, but like, it's funny that like, the people that he interviewed though, or the, at least the people that showed up in the independent article are women. And like, and I mean, yeah, I don't mean I'm thinking, guess I am going, what, why did you just saw? Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. The reason I side is because it'll probably end up like, okay, it'll sound a little bit ranting, not ranty, but maybe a little bit controversial or a bit stereotypical, but the thing is that, okay, so if you interview a 90 year old woman about like things that she was worrying about, like chances are, she wasn't necessarily about the same things that we would be worrying about as a modern woman.
Speaker 1 00:13:56 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Cause like, as in she wouldn't worry about it back then. Yeah. Like, so like what are your roles she has about the same type of things. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Right. Because if you think about it, let's say they interviewed her right. At the beginning of the legacy project, it was 2004. Right. So she's 90 in 2004. So then like that would have meant that she was, you know, uh, you know, she was born in 1910, like the tens 1910s. And so like when she was 40, like what would have that been like 1950? Like it's a totally different time. Yep. Like, so yeah. So then part of me is just like, okay, I feel bad saying this, but I'm just kind of like, okay, I get it. Like, you know, the things that you worried about, maybe didn't have like, didn't end up impacting your life in any big way.
Speaker 1 00:14:53 But then like, Ooh, I don't know. Like, like it's a modern, as a modern working woman are, our challenges are different for is very different. Right? So our need or things that impact us or our stressors for our worry are very different warrant worrying about exactly. Like, I feel like even a mother in the modern age is like a totally different set of worries than a mother, like back then, you know? So I was just like, okay. I mean, we can assume, like, I don't know, three things, right. Like either she got married and had children by the time she was 40, for some reason she was, um, a spinster and I'm using the term of the day, I guess, like that they wouldn't have used.
Speaker 1 00:16:04 Or the third thing would have been that she was a career woman, um, in the fifties, but then she would have been a very, um, like it would have been, it would have been a very niche, would been a very niche segment of society. Yeah. Like, yeah. Although like, I mean, I guess the other thing is the other thing is, is that like they did live through the wars. Like that's the other thing, right? Like that's a totally, that's a totally different time. And I mean, that gives them a different perspective too, because it's kind of like, well, we fucking lived through the wars and we came out together.
Speaker 1 00:16:44 Yeah. Right. So like calm down. Yeah. Maybe that's part of it too. Right. Like I wish they'd gone into it in a little bit more detailed. We should read the book. We need to do something about like the different categories and, and, and life lessons. But the thought that came to mind was Mitch albums. Um, both that book. Oh, I used to Tuesdays with Morrie. Oh. Tuesdays with Morrie. Oh yeah. You're going to heaven or five things. Oh, I hated that fucking book. Don't even talk to me much about that book. You remember Tuesdays with Morrie a little bit more. Um, so I think in some ways I get the generalities of, of these life lessons, if you will. Right. Because yeah. Actually, if something is truly out of your control, for example, you were in a war situation or in our case, a pandemic situation, not, but you know, um, highly impactful in our society.
Speaker 1 00:17:54 Right. Like if you get he's getting impacted then yeah. So once you get through it, you know, that resilience you show in having gotten through it, you, you do realize, you know, what, there were certain actions that we took during that time. That probably was overkill. You know, maybe we could have been a little bit more, I don't know, whatever insert action here. Right. Like we could have been, um, less careful, less stressed, less worried, whatever. Right. Yeah. But while we were going through it, like last year, last summer, I don't know about you, but I was terrified of going down for a little bit. Like, I think you, and a couple of other people were the only people that were like inside my bubble, very diligent about it. Whereas now I'm a lot more, you know, like, like, okay, I can, you know, like, I, I I'll be calculated.
Speaker 1 00:18:50 I'll calculate my risk a little bit more, um, tolerant. Yeah. But the thing is, is that I don't know that I would tell other people like, oh, you know, the time that you were worrying through the pandemic, it really wasn't like, there was no point to it. Like, I would never tell somebody that because while you were going through it, it was a big deal. Right. It was a big deal. It caused a lot of stress. And you know, the reason that you're actually like you've come through on the other side and you're happy and healthy might just be because you took the precautions, you know what I mean? Like so worried. Right. So like, I would never say like, oh, don't worry. Like, you know, like I think that's the part that I have a problem with. Cause I'm just like, okay. I like, why?
Speaker 1 00:19:40 Like, why are you telling people not to worry? Because if it's some, if it's an actual, tangible thing that should be worried about then I don't know. I don't know. I think you're right. Um, and, and you know, what, maybe the point of there, the thing that they're trying to say was more around the behavior of it. I think it was more, I don't know. I haven't read the book. So through the article and give you some of the points that people made like about what, what do I, yeah. What they, um, I think what I'm thinking of is, you know, sometimes people worry so much that they don't prepare, um, and paralyzes them are realized by the worry and insight and, and you're, you're so scared and, and you overthink and ruminate on certain things. Yeah. And I'm wondering if that's the type of worrying that people talk about where I hadn't spent 20 days, for example, you know, worrying about something that I could have and then prepared and solved within a day or two.
Speaker 1 00:20:50 Yeah. Yeah. I guess kind of, um, not practical, like, like, like an impractical worry or whatever. Yeah. Like you rang so much that you're frozen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's true. Like that can happen and like it's. Yeah. And it isn't, it isn't useful. Right. So, yeah. So some of the things that they said that they learned over the course of their lifetime was to, well, the first one was focused on the short-term rather than the long term. And this PR this one person she's, um, 102 years old, um, Eleanor Madison's. So she said like, if you worry a lot, you have to stop and think to yourself, this too will pass you. Can't go on worrying all the time because it destroys you in life really. But there's all the times when you think of worrying and you can't help it, then just make yourself stop and think it doesn't do any good.
Speaker 1 00:21:45 You have to put it out of your mind as much as you can at the time, you just have to take one day at a time. It's a good idea to plan ahead of possible, but you can't always do that because things don't always happen the way you were hoping they would happen. So the most important thing is one day at a time. I mean, that's good advice, you know, like you can, there's only so much you can control and you can kind of deal with things as they come. Like I think that's, that's good. Um, I don't know, in, in principle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it does, it makes sense in principle. Um, but doesn't, it just mean that you're using the worry and making yourself act on it. So isn't the worry good. In some ways, like don't overthink worry clearly, but kind of try and come up with a solution and, and move forward.
Speaker 1 00:22:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, exactly. And then that kind of goes into the second point, which is, so the second point that they made was instead of worrying, prepare. So then somebody said, if this is a 74 year old man named Joshua Bateman. So he said, if you're going to be afraid of something, you really ought to know what it is, at least understand why, um, identify it. I'm afraid of X. And sometimes you might have good reason. That's a legitimate concern and you can plan for it instead of worrying about it. Which is, I think what we're saying is that yeah. Like if it's worried about something nebulous that you can't control, like yeah. That can end up becoming pathological, but like, but I'm not saying that you shouldn't worry at all.
Speaker 1 00:23:14 I was going to say, like, I think both the quotes that you use don't actually say, don't worry. It's just basically saying don't get frozen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's, uh, I think it's misleading. Like I think the title of the article is misleading about like, you know, like, like stop worrying about things. Because I think that, I think that worry can actually be, they can push you to do things, right? Like you, it pushes you to prepare for things like, yeah, exactly. The preparation is key. Like I have this huge presentation and I'm stressed and worried about it, but that's actually making me prepare and, you know, make sure that I've, you know, fact checked every piece I've, I've, uh, written down questions that I anticipate might come my way. Um, you know, I did a few practice runs so that I minimize these ums and UHS that I do when I speak like a normal person.
Speaker 1 00:24:13 Yeah. And, uh, so yeah. So I'm think I'm just, I don't know. I think a little bit of worrying is good overall. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean like, but then like your worry is like a tangible thing, right? Like this presentation, you're worried about it going well, because like the consequences of it are the fact that while you're you have a team, you don't want to let them down. Plus like, you want to go ahead, you know, you want to be able to get promoted. Like this is, these are all steps towards getting it. So you can just say like, eh, don't worry about it because in the end, it'll work, it'll work out. Okay. Because the thing is, is you don't know that until you get to the end, um, even in the way it works out, it may be different, right? Like it may, may actually result in a, some, you know, something different, which I wasn't worried about.
Speaker 1 00:25:06 Uh, but because I worried about something, it forced me to do something else, you know, and, and I landed somewhere different, but yeah, until I reached the end, I won't know whether or not this was a good thing. Exactly, exactly. Like I think, yeah. I think that like, for one of these studies where there's the benefit of hindsight, it doesn't. Yeah. Like I don't know how helpful it is because it's just like, well, yeah, your life worked out well, but I don't know if my life is going to work out well, the person who's 102 clearly, you know, she's, she has, she's had a good long life, which sounds lovely. Yeah. No. And, and of course she's, you know, probably made some healthy decisions in life, you know, to the, or genetics may have played a role, but also probably her lifestyle. Right. She can't care of herself and not done certain things.
Speaker 1 00:26:01 So yeah. You know, her worrying was probably just channeled differently, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like something that like, and it's also perception too. Right. Because I, it depends on whether or not you think it's worrying. Right. Like, I don't know that, like I, yeah. Like if I worry about work, like I'm not going to really think of that as like inactive worrying or pathologic worrying, because like that actually, like, there's a reason I'm worrying about that. You know? Like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm, if I'm explaining myself well, but like, it's just a, I think we should read this book. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm curious. I don't know if it's going to make me happy. Like, I don't know if it's going to teach me something or if I'm just going to be mad about it. I think what I want to know is did the interviewers have like establish a trust in that relationship to be able to get to deeper conversations, like talk to the people, what kind of, you know, like how long a period was it like a once and done thing, you know?
Speaker 1 00:27:14 Yeah. Because if, if it was like a once and done thing, like, oh, here, we're going to have an interview or a focus group and people may be honest, but it really wouldn't be deep. So maybe that's why it, you know, it's what it is. Right. Yeah. And the advice seems a little bit trite because it's so superficial, right? Yeah, yeah. Yes. You know, if they actually did take into account, like, I want to know if there was any cultural differences. I was there any gender differences, right? Yeah. Like it can't just be an age thing. And then I want to know the socioeconomic, um, characteristics of these people. How are they living today? Where are they living today? What kind of lifestyle did they come from? How much money did they have, because that would actually probably contribute to the level of worry that you have in your younger years.
Speaker 1 00:28:06 Oh, for sure. Definitely. Yeah. Cause like, I mean, if you're for work, if you're going to feed your child, it's easy to sort of say, oh, don't worry, but sweat the small stuff. Yeah, exactly. I know I'm going to sweat the small stuff because like matters. Exactly. And the thing is, is like nothing small, like everything would be a big, big thing. And like, yeah. That's the thing. Like if, if somebody comes from a very affluent family and like, doesn't really have to worry about, you know, like supporting themselves then yeah. Like your, your, your anxiety about things is totally different, right? Like, yeah, no, it's true. Like I like, and yeah. Even when they quote these people, they don't really quote very much about them. It's just like Eleanor Madison 100, two years old. Okay. That doesn't tell me anything about her or her life, you know?
Speaker 1 00:29:00 Yeah. And this one's interesting though. Cause it comes from a nun. So this is the one where they actually said the job. So this is sister Claire, who's a 99 year old nun. So she said actively work towards acceptance. And so she says, um, so basically her, her advice is just let it be. So then she says that everybody has uncharitable thoughts. You can't help it. Some people get on your nerves and that will be there until you die. But when they start and I find myself thinking, well, now she shouldn't do that. I should tell her that, you know something. And then she said, let it be often before I say anything. I think if I did that, then what? And then let it be. And she says, oh, so many times I felt grateful that I did nothing. That lesson one has helped me an awful lot. So pretty much, pretty much turned the other cheek.
Speaker 1 00:29:52 Okay. I'm going to sound like the, the, the corporate alpha that I am, but sometimes I have an inner corporate alpha. Yeah. Let's go with that. But doesn't that actually make you a doormat, like you're essentially telling people that they can walk all over you and they can treat you, however, you'll just let it be. Like, what if, you know, you would be doing the person a favor by just teaching them that they can't just go around being an idiot, but then keep in mind that she's a nun. Like I'm just like, she lives in a different life for her. It's okay to let it be because, but I agree. It totally depends on like, it depends on your life, right? Like, I mean, in the corporate world, it clearly doesn't behoove you to let it be like this doesn't this, won't get you ahead.
Speaker 1 00:30:55 This won't, you know, this moment we're getting ahead. It's just that sometimes I feel like people and not just in corporate, but in, in the work. Right. Like, you'll see these situations when you read about these news articles where people just sort of like, they're so entitled to their feelings and their own, um, you know, desires and wants and needs. Right. That they're okay with other people's suffering as a result of that. So like they, you know, they don't think it's a big deal, right? Like to treat someone rudely and we'll just use a small example of sometimes like servers, right? Like treating servers rudely, like why the F would you do that? Right. Like there's no earthly reason why you think that just because you're at a restaurant, you can talk to a person who is actually making it easy for you, like a douche.
Speaker 1 00:31:51 Right? Like, why don't you talk like addiction? And so that's the kind of stuff where I'm like, why would you let those kinds of people get away with it? And like, you know, like what earthly reason is there to let that behavior continue? Like people should know that it's not okay. That, that kind of attitude or action or the way they talk deserves a bitch. Slap. Thank you. Okay. Okay. I'm just going to say, okay, I'm just going to counter. I'm just, well, it's not really a counter argument, but I'm just going to like counter with something and just let me know what you think. So, okay. I agree. Like there are people out there who treat people like this. Right. And like, you know, many of us are like, think in our heads like this isn't right. But I don't think it would be in the, in the best interest to tell people to do that. Like I know you're saying like, you shouldn't let people treat you like a doormat, but then you don't know what the circumstances are. Like, I don't think it's the server's place to do that. It is every other single it's the other people that that person is with. That should be true. Ally for the server and say, I'm sorry, you should not be treating them this way.
Speaker 1 00:33:03 Then we should support that. You know, if the surgeon does speak up, he or she and says, uh, you know, sir, ma'am please do not speak to me in that tone. That is respectful. I think that, you know, the consequences shouldn't be negative on them, right? Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, is you don't know, right? Like that person could stand up for themselves and you don't know whether or not they lose their job because they're, you know, their boss thinks that they shouldn't have piped up. Whoever they're talking to is like the CEO of like X company and comes in here all the time and blah, blah, blah. Like you don't know. Yeah. You just, don't, it's easier said than done. Like, you know, I mean, a lot of these conversations that I have where I'm berating people, it's in my head, <inaudible> a lot of, um, you know, wasn't that a friend's episode, I'm going to bring up friends forever. It all comes full circle, circle. I'm making, if you must know, I'm making fists with my toes gesture that I think it was Ross who does it. And he was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:34:23 It's like where he just sort of fist bumps his, uh, two hands together kind of a thing. And I feel like that's, I'm too cowardly to actually say anything. Yeah, exactly. No. I mean, yeah, like there's all these, they're all, these are the things we shouldn't really be worrying about because at the end of the day sentiment of the article, I think I do understand the sentiment of the article. I do want to read the book. So when you get a chance title, cause I think one of these days I will, uh, pick up reading again and start, and I think I'll put that on my list. No, we should probably, we should probably read it and see whether or not we do agree with what's being said. I mean, I'm curious to know what these, you know, like elder, like older adults actually. Um, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:35:24 I have to say, have to say about their lives and what they learned and whatnot. Yeah. Interesting. Actually I want to know what older people today, because these are, these people were interviewed in 2004, you said? Yeah. Okay. So that's a long time ago. Like 16 years ago. 15 years ago. My, yeah, yeah. It's yeah. It's 17 years ago now. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's a long time. Um, you know, so I'm curious like older people or people, you know, what are, what are their biggest regrets? Um, you know, exactly. I'm sure there was more, it was more than just worrying. Right? Like I have a feeling, I mean, you know, this makes like worrying makes it a nice tidy little. Yeah. But there might be a lot more to it. We missed out. Definitely. I think we should check it out. Um, yeah. And I think I will ask everyone, you know, if, if you have things that you regret, um, and, and that's come with, as you've gotten older, um, share that with us, let us know.
Speaker 1 00:36:28 Um, yeah. Cause we, yeah, we could do another episode where we just like talk about like regrets that we have now or concern concerned about for the future. Like whatever. Yeah. Like it would be, it'd be interesting. I mean, yeah. Anyway, I think on that note, we should probably call it a night day, whatever an episode, let's call it an episode we're on social. So Facebook, Instagram, um, or email us, does this make me look
[email protected] and all the social handles are of the same names. So definitely look us up and although Twitter isn't right. I thought Twitter was, does this make me look too or something like that? No. Oh yeah. But I think if you search for it, it still shows up. Okay. Okay. All right. Well you can definitely find us all the social handles on our website. So that's, does this make me look old.com? Yeah. Yeah. And,
Speaker 0 00:37:27 Uh, yeah. And, and uh, until next week, bye.
